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Old 06-21-2011, 02:09 PM
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I am sure one of you unhappy people will let us know if the crowd and car count at Auburndale is bad this coming Sat. night, as you claim it will be. Also I take it that 20 of you unhappy people have $2500.00 each to invest in renting a track. That $50,000. I am sure that each of the 20 would have a non-racing fan that would love to invest $2500. also in a money making venture like this. Now we are up to $100,000 to put a deposit now, and have operating money set aside. I think you might be surprise and how many Florida tracks call your group. May even fight over you. I watched 3 races on tv this past Sunday. Nascar, IRL and a dirt race on CBS. The dirt track race was the best. Yet, none, none of the stands were filled at any of these races. Wonder why? I think it would be safe to say the money they made was due to being on tv.
Frankly I would like to know HOW MANY CARS were there this past weekend. I know in the spring it was about 50 or less cars. Did he say what the magic number is he has ti get to, to race?
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Old 06-21-2011, 02:17 PM
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Just a ideal here and I really think you could find one track owner to go along with the deal.
A group of people (unhappy racers, car owners, crew members and fans) form a small company and lease a track for the rest of the year. Pay them the same amount every month. Run the track your way. Make money, lose money. Treat the racers how you think it sure be done. Make tech decisions, fight the weather, set the purse, what you think is fair, clean the restrooms, cut the grass, fix grandstands, clean and work the track, do things on Saturday night yourselves. If the people of the company do not want to do the dirty work, hire someone. The amount you pay the track owner will be the same as if you would be paying mortgage and taxes. Maybe this is what Bubba did, got some investors together and brought Ocala. As I told my collage grad nephew several years ago when he said that he thought the Iraq War was the right thing to do, I said to him, "go sign up, don't let other people bleed for you." He didn't sign up. However, if you are not happy with the way things are done then do it yourself. Or you can come on here and complain all you want and nothing will change. It would be cheating to complain.
I could not agree with you more and i love your suggestion about signing up and not letting someone else lose their blood for you.
All talkers and no doers on here. Been like that for the 12-13 yrs. ive been here. well not all but most!
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Old 06-21-2011, 03:00 PM
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Really have no ideal how many cars were there, I did not count them. Drove from Tampa to be there. His thinking about car count has nothing to do with my ideal.
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Old 06-21-2011, 03:09 PM
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To assume and then say that this is the general response to any racer or fan with a problem at a racetrack is absolutely misleading. There's always a story or circumstances behind that statement ever being said to anyone.

Who makes racers buy tires every week?
Tim, please read this before you reply. I'm saying the general attitude has become "If you dont like it, go someplace else". You basically said thats what I do when a customer says he found a cheaper service. That is not correct, I do not and I suggest every attempt be made to keep cars you have, if after you try, I.E. talk with them, listen to them and if you can't help correct the problem, then ok, let them go. BUT, I'm sensing a general feeling that "If they don't like it, they can leave" I simply said thats NOT right and its NOT working. As far as tires, show me where I said anyone MAKES anyone buy tires? Where did I say that? So youre implying if you race you don't have to buy tires??, or are you saying go to the throw away pile and find some?? I said in order to be competitive you have to buy at least 2 tires a week as compared to buying or using takeoffs. This did not improve the competition, it only was done to increase income for the track and plays into the hands of the competitors with the $. But heck, if you can't afford it, go home right? So now we sell probably as many or a few more tires but have 1/2 the cars which = 1/2 the fans, 1/2 the concessions and 1/2 the number of people that might of been, or were sponsors of the track or cars. Maybe thats good business, but not where I come from.
Carol, I'm sorry if discussing these problems, or if someone doesnt agree with someone else upsets you, then why do you read it? After all, unless I'm mistaken, I believe this IS a discussion board. Sorry I do not agree with everything that goes on at the track, I'm man enough to say whats on my mind.Trust me Carol, I get pm all the time from people that agree with me, its just that most don't dare say so for fear of being teched out of the place. And unlike some on here I do not take private PM to the public forum. I'm not afraid of that, I can say what I feel. Because I do not agree doesn't mean I hate you or anyone else but I just recommend if what I say offends you or anyone else then when you see my name don't read it or put me on your ignore list, thats what its for, you will not offend me.
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Old 06-21-2011, 03:22 PM
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dont be gettin all defensive. i said over 12-13 yrs. have only been reading yours for one yr. it was a general statement. of course you are entitled to your opinions whether we agree or not. i agree with alot of what you say... so chill out. read it again. your name never came up...
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Old 06-21-2011, 04:06 PM
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Tim, please read this before you reply. I'm saying the general attitude has become "If you dont like it, go someplace else". You basically said thats what I do when a customer says he found a cheaper service. That is not correct, I do not and I suggest every attempt be made to keep cars you have, if after you try, I.E. talk with them, listen to them and if you can't help correct the problem, then ok, let them go. BUT, I'm sensing a general feeling that "If they don't like it, they can leave" I simply said thats NOT right and its NOT working. As far as tires, show me where I said anyone MAKES anyone buy tires? Where did I say that? So youre implying if you race you don't have to buy tires??, or are you saying go to the throw away pile and find some?? I said in order to be competitive you have to buy at least 2 tires a week as compared to buying or using takeoffs. This did not improve the competition, it only was done to increase income for the track and plays into the hands of the competitors with the $. But heck, if you can't afford it, go home right? So now we sell probably as many or a few more tires but have 1/2 the cars which = 1/2 the fans, 1/2 the concessions and 1/2 the number of people that might of been, or were sponsors of the track or cars. Maybe thats good business, but not where I come from.
Carol, I'm sorry if discussing these problems, or if someone doesnt agree with someone else upsets you, then why do you read it? After all, unless I'm mistaken, I believe this IS a discussion board. Sorry I do not agree with everything that goes on at the track, I'm man enough to say whats on my mind.Trust me Carol, I get pm all the time from people that agree with me, its just that most don't dare say so for fear of being teched out of the place. And unlike some on here I do not take private PM to the public forum. I'm not afraid of that, I can say what I feel. Because I do not agree doesn't mean I hate you or anyone else but I just recommend if what I say offends you or anyone else then when you see my name don't read it or put me on your ignore list, thats what its for, you will not offend me.
I'm being asked to answer questions from a person that goes to one track once a month tops that proclaims to know everything that's going on in the pits and stands week to week at every race track in the state of Florida.....I'll pass....

My new signature says it all.....Please understand I have a compassion for the people with track problems and will do my best to help bridge the gap so that they understand and continue their racing dream....others..WELL!!!...............If you just post to stir the $hit to keep seeing your name on a forum, I'm just going to call you on it......
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Old 06-21-2011, 04:37 PM
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And for the record Tuna(Don), you can call Kim @ NSS and ask her...I asked for your number on Saturday because I has some bug problems in my beach rentals....but then I thought about all the nice things you had said to me about my gene pool and parents being such losers thru your pm's and I thought.......hmmmm, I wrote a $1,800 check to someone else gladly for the year......He was done in 4 hours and I probably won't see him again till next year...You definately know what your doing!!!!
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Old 06-21-2011, 04:51 PM
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Tim, Tim, Tim.... what in the hell was going through your mind when you even considered hooking this piece of work up with a nice service contract??????

I thought the days of the phychedelic drugs were WAY behind you....!
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Old 06-21-2011, 04:53 PM
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And P.S.to Tim... Next time you have this come up, I have family in Daytona that will take care of your needs. I'll make sure you get treated right...
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Old 06-21-2011, 04:56 PM
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And P.S.to Tim... Next time you have this come up, I have family in Daytona that will take care of your needs. I'll make sure you get treated right...
LMAO!!! Thats some good $hit right there....
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Old 06-21-2011, 05:01 PM
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Jerry, it's time to come to NSB for the weekend....GOD help us both....just don't leave me at the bar this time......
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Old 06-21-2011, 05:16 PM
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And Tuna....Don Nerones first lesson to me in this sport...."Be careful of the toes you step on....they may be connected to the ass your kissing later..."
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Old 06-21-2011, 05:51 PM
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To let everyone know about the car count sat. There were not that many there were 8 Late Models, 5 Sportsman, and a hand full of other cars. All together I think there were about,.....maybe.......40. and that is all. They first cancel the race on us, then told us that we were racing cause everybody wanted to race(but i know of at least 10 cars they did not ask) then told us that we weren't racing. Then after that, they told us every class was getting rescheduled to next weekend but the late models cause the circuit was running in NSS. For the rain I think it barely rained like less than a drizzle for 2 minutes if that. SO CANCEL THE RACES FOR NO RAIN!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-21-2011, 06:01 PM
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18 Legends...... Not that we matter........we're just the little cars that put on the best show !!!
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Old 06-21-2011, 07:45 PM
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And for the record Tuna(Don), you can call Kim @ NSS and ask her...I asked for your number on Saturday because I has some bug problems in my beach rentals....but then I thought about all the nice things you had said to me about my gene pool and parents being such losers thru your pm's and I thought.......hmmmm, I wrote a $1,800 check to someone else gladly for the year......He was done in 4 hours and I probably won't see him again till next year...You definately know what your doing!!!!
$1,800 for a yr? you're not as bright as i thought you were!!! I dare say you never saw $1,800 in one place in your life. And you really surprise me, I have NEVER sent you a private PM. So now I have to call you a liar!!! Oh, I have NEVER said anything negative about Kim. Oh, by the way, I'm glad you didnt call , I wouldn't of had to say no!! And Frasson, I'm not aware of doing anything to you but you can kiss my ass too!!!!
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Old 06-21-2011, 07:48 PM
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The funniest part is how many on this thread were actually at Auburndale??? Just wonderin!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-21-2011, 07:48 PM
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And Tuna....Don Nerones first lesson to me in this sport...."Be careful of the toes you step on....they may be connected to the ass your kissing later..."
Well I guarantee you ass hole, I'll never kiss your ass! It resembles your face too much. And $1800 for pest control for a yr contract?? What an idiot. Last I knew you and most everyone else in your family lived in something owned by Robert Hart, and I KNOW he wont buy pest control, How? Look at the ants and bugs in the concession area at NSS!!!
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Old 06-21-2011, 07:53 PM
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And for the record Tuna(Don), you can call Kim @ NSS and ask her...I asked for your number on Saturday because I has some bug problems in my beach rentals....but then I thought about all the nice things you had said to me about my gene pool and parents being such losers thru your pm's and I thought.......hmmmm, I wrote a $1,800 check to someone else gladly for the year......He was done in 4 hours and I probably won't see him again till next year...You definately know what your doing!!!!
You're the biggest frikkin liar I ever met. I don't even have a clue who your parents are, the only member in your family I kind of know is Kim, and to my knowledge I have never had any problem with her. So like I said, I would of gladly turned down your offer to do pest control for you. Beach rentals? Who are you trying to kid, what a dreamer!!!
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Old 06-21-2011, 07:55 PM
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And P.S.to Tim... Next time you have this come up, I have family in Daytona that will take care of your needs. I'll make sure you get treated right...
Hey Frasson, he dont need any of your family to take care of his "needs", he has you!!!!! LMAO!!!
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Old 06-21-2011, 08:01 PM
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I'm being asked to answer questions from a person that goes to one track once a month tops that proclaims to know everything that's going on in the pits and stands week to week at every race track in the state of Florida.....I'll pass....

My new signature says it all.....Please understand I have a compassion for the people with track problems and will do my best to help bridge the gap so that they understand and continue their racing dream....others..WELL!!!...............If you just post to stir the $hit to keep seeing your name on a forum, I'm just going to call you......
Ok, Big bad Tim, you're gonna call me? Why dont you, we can meet someplace if that was a threat, do you think I'm afraid of you, you're sa skinny piece of shit!! And just for your info ass hole, I have spent a lot of money on cars and quite a lot helping NSS, more than you I guarantee, that is until ass holes like you came along!! Another thing, I don't go to the track once a month, I'm one of those that "If you don't like it, go elsewhere" Theres hundreds of us!! But tell you what shit bag, I plan to be there this week, if I go I'll tell you exactly where I'll be so you can be a big bad guy and come see me, tough guy!!
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Old 06-21-2011, 08:12 PM
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Whoo ! Nasty Nasty

And They Bashed Don Nerone For Asking Where Someone Is!!!

Legends Are A Very Good Show And I Think A Lot Of Peiople Care.

Remember They Chose That Business And Wanted To Be A Promoter. Its A Business A Business .

Sometimes U Win And Sometimes U Lose. .......................

P.s. Don Nerone One Of The Best In This Day Probley Forgot More Than These Guys Will Ever Know And Thats A Fact.

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Old 06-21-2011, 09:02 PM
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I was there Saturday. I don't think my ideal would work, everyweek the pit office would have to be remodeled because of fights that 20 complainers would have because they wouldn't be able to agree on anything.
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Old 06-21-2011, 09:14 PM
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I see the Fisherman is makin' friends again...LMAO....
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Old 06-21-2011, 10:53 PM
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Ok, Big bad Tim, you're gonna call me? Why dont you, we can meet someplace if that was a threat, do you think I'm afraid of you, you're sa skinny piece of shit!! And just for your info ass hole, I have spent a lot of money on cars and quite a lot helping NSS, more than you I guarantee, that is until ass holes like you came along!! Another thing, I don't go to the track once a month, I'm one of those that "If you don't like it, go elsewhere" Theres hundreds of us!! But tell you what shit bag, I plan to be there this week, if I go I'll tell you exactly where I'll be so you can be a big bad guy and come see me, tough guy!!
This is so wrong. i dont have to read it but i wouldnt know what ppl are saying if i dont. lol to call ANYONE a piece of shit, asshole and shit bag is totally against all Karnac rules. Cant you debate without calling ppl names. and you have threatened him on top of that.
sometimes you write things that make good sense and then you go off on someone you dont agree with and show your butt. this is a public forum with rules against vulgarity and insults. Please send your messages and your ideas but quit the name calling. it takes away your credibility..
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Old 06-22-2011, 12:25 AM
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Carol he can't help it.....

I rest my case...
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:50 AM
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:56 AM
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This is so wrong. i dont have to read it but i wouldnt know what ppl are saying if i dont. lol to call ANYONE a piece of shit, asshole and shit bag is totally against all Karnac rules. Cant you debate without calling ppl names. and you have threatened him on top of that.
sometimes you write things that make good sense and then you go off on someone you dont agree with and show your butt. this is a public forum with rules against vulgarity and insults. Please send your messages and your ideas but quit the name calling. it takes away your credibility..
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You don't read a lot do you Carol? He lied to/about me, I never sent him a Pm, ever. He tries to say I said crap about his family in a Pm I never sent and then says he's should call me, does he think that scares me?
read my last post to him where I said pls read this before you reply, he's the one started this dog fight, not me. He and a few others are sucking up to track owners for some unknown reason. Credibility? Trust me, I get PM all the time from people that agree with me. Oh, KARNAC rules? Doesn't it say no flames please? He has a great way of throwing a lot of flames. I don't know exactly what flames are but lieing about people on a public forum I would say comes close. Look at his signature, it shows he's just a big feeling c
Dirt bag. Ocean front rentals?give me a break, if he could write an $1800 check he wouldn't of worked on a set of scales at NSS, I know what they pay. So read the thread again Carol, I simply disagreed with him on the problems at NSS and he gets all defensive towards his sister, he's the one started this. Where id I threaten him, I said go ahead and call me, or meet me someplace if that's what you mean by calling me. I'll let him know when I'll be at NSS again. Is that a threat? Typical woman, let me guess, someone says one word to you I bet "He's yelling at me" boo hoo
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:57 AM
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You guys should be ashamed of yourselves ! Keeping me up late waiting for the next response. Now I'm up early to get caught up. Who needs soap operas and reality shows ?


Carol, hush darling, women are to be seen not heard. Bahahaha ! I'm only winding you up !
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Old 06-22-2011, 07:02 AM
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well you forgot one thing EZ... women CANNOT be shut up. roflll
Tuney... idid read it all and i have not agreed or disagreed with anything you post EXCEPT i think the name calling is wrong. you want to argue? fine... argue all you want but dont call ppl nasty names. most of the time you dont even know who you are arguing with. ;-) think about that. could be a kid!
if you read back most of the posts on this board have been interesting and we have read a variety of opinions. none of them contain the words you used.... im no saint by any means... i cuss too. especially when im ticked off... but not on here! we arent sucking up to track owners. some ppl think they can help keep the tracks open. who else do you go to? do you think a track owner would listen to someone who called him an a$$hole or any other name? do you think they would bother coming on this board to discuss their business? NOT!
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Old 06-22-2011, 07:11 AM
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Don Nerone wasn't perfect, yes he made mistakes, he made one with me and people I was helping one time but like I've said, I understand the circumstances, know he thought he was right and I have never said a thing about it nor will I. There's a few "lug nuts" on here that will cut up anyone that's not around any more, or they never met, or disagrees with someone, but there's one thing they forget, or more accurately, don't want to admit. The racing was a lot better then, a lot bigger crowds, a lot more $ coming in and I never heard this new attitude "if you don't like it, go someplace else." Everyone is unhappy now, the car owners, the drivers, the fans, "or maybe I should say one time fans".
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