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Old 11-07-2018, 08:08 AM
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Wouldn't it be fun to see the Wheelman Sportsman Series race on a dirt track next year? if not dirt what tracks would you like to see the series race at?
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Old 11-07-2018, 09:14 AM
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I'd love to see the Wheelman Series at Bronson Speedway....

but I know that'll happen when pigs fly.
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Old 11-07-2018, 03:25 PM
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I'd love to see the Wheelman Series at Bronson Speedway....

but I know that'll happen when pigs fly.

Anne did say that she would love to have the Wheelman Series there as long as they provided the sponsorship to pay for the purse, brought tires for the racers, and promoted the race.
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Old 11-08-2018, 01:39 PM
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Unknown Sportsman Crewchief--"Yeah, um, crank about 16 rounds into all four jackbolts, and strap that old cylinder head onto the right rear framerail. Now, how do we get the left rear wheel to tuck under the driver's seat again...?"

We does like their dirt nosecones, though.

I would like to see the Wheelman Series at both Bronson & Bithlo, pending appropriate funding.

Speaking of which, E.J. of American Auto and Tire in New Smyrna Beach, has chosen to fund the Sportsman class at NSS, as opposed to a car.

https://www.americanautonsb.com/

Food for thought for those considering spending advertising $$ on racing with some expectations of Return On Investment.

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Old 11-08-2018, 09:24 PM
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Be cool to see @ Henry on dirt and Sebring.
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Old 12-07-2018, 10:05 AM
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Anne did say that she would love to have the Wheelman Series there as long as they provided the sponsorship to pay for the purse, brought tires for the racers, and promoted the race.
When did she say this?

I don't know for sure but I think Wheelman already pays their own purse.
I'll bet Hoosier Tire would be happy to sell a 100+ tires (based on 24 cars)
Wheelman does a good job at promoting their series already so I don't see that as being a problem.

I guess we'll see when the 2019 Wheelman Series schedule comes out because Bronson doesn't post a schedule anymore- she puts something on facepage every now and then.

and the beat goes on
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Old 12-08-2018, 09:01 AM
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They already do, it's called Durrance Layne Street Stock
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Old 12-09-2018, 03:41 PM
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Apparently they will open the 2019 season next month at a different track.Watermelon Capitol Speedway in Georgia as part of Speedfest
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:28 AM
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Nah Durrance Layne cars only run on dirt, Cordele is pavement.
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Old 12-20-2018, 11:08 AM
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I don't see the attraction of trying to run pavement cars on dirt. It basically never ends up in a good show. Even when ARCA does it the show is usually never good, it's a slow dustbowl.
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Old 12-21-2018, 09:45 AM
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Seems to me the type of car has nothing to do with dust.

Barney may nonetheless be onto something here...

I am not a dirt guy, but have been to dirt tracks here and there all my life.

Used to go to East Bay perhaps twice a year and there was good, side-by-side, unpredictable racing.

Now they wallow around, mostly wide open, and mostly single file. Heaven help the guy that gets clipped, handling is about like a drunken slinky. Every now and then someone gets the cushion right and blows by the field--3 car-widths higher than the rest of 'em.

Further, back in the day you did see cars successfully run dirt and asphalt. And let's not forget Balough set up the Batmobile like an asphalt car to run the bottom at Syracuse.

Really, I wish they would mandate a 20 year old setup with stiffer springs and a left rear wheel that would stay in place--more like RacerBarney's asphalt cars. Maybe a thought for a Sportsman class.

Speaking of Barney, here is a Mayberry conspirasist:

https://youtu.be/chi9LLgfOyM?t=2

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Old 01-02-2019, 02:41 PM
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Seems to me the type of car has nothing to do with dust.
Barney may nonetheless be onto something here...
I am not a dirt guy, but have been to dirt tracks here and there all my life.
Used to go to East Bay perhaps twice a year and there was good, side-by-side, unpredictable racing.
Now they wallow around, mostly wide open, and mostly single file. Heaven help the guy that gets clipped, handling is about like a drunken slinky. Every now and then someone gets the cushion right and blows by the field--3 car-widths higher than the rest of 'em.
Further, back in the day you did see cars successfully run dirt and asphalt. And let's not forget Balough set up the Batmobile like an asphalt car to run the bottom at Syracuse.
Really, I wish they would mandate a 20 year old setup with stiffer springs and a left rear wheel that would stay in place--more like RacerBarney's asphalt cars. Maybe a thought for a Sportsman class.
Speaking of Barney, here is a Mayberry conspirasist:

https://youtu.be/chi9LLgfOyM?t=2
It's not the car itself, it's the track prep. To run (modern) pavement cars on dirt you pretty much need a hard, smooth, slick surface. That typically results in dust and crappy racing. Look at the trucks at Eldora, that is not hardly what Eldora looks like prepped for sprint cars.
Syracuse was the closest thing to asphalt you're going to see a dirt track get, other then the holes that seemed to open up the final few years.
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Fair enough.

My larger point remains, however. Somehow current dirt rules have dialed out good racing, imo.

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Sandusky Speedway in Ohio ran their annual Hangover race on New year's day. I caught some live video on Facebook and it looked to be dominated mainly by dirt late models giving it a go on Sandusky's half mile pavement.The Gentry's ran one event for dirt lates in their first year taking over at 4-17.Only a half dozen came that night at Punta Gorda but in the feature they ran four wide through turn two(and never wrecked each other) They did it on a few days notice.Somebody should try that again with a little more lead time.The racing was pretty wild really for only a half dozen cars.
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Old 01-02-2019, 10:55 PM
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Default Not the Wheelman Series but Late Models

According to the NSS website schedule they are racing Dirt Late Models on March 2.
I wish the track wasn't so far away, I'd like to see what kind of show they put on.

As a side note, I remember about some 20 years ago Columbia had the National Late Model Sportsman dirt cars race there a couple times.
But I'm getting so old I can't really remember if it was a good race or not LoL

http://www.newsmyrnaspeedway.org/schedule/

https://www.facebook.com/floridalate...type=3&theater
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Old 01-07-2019, 12:49 PM
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Fair enough.

My larger point remains, however. Somehow current dirt rules have dialed out good racing, imo.
That's an interesting perspective, and one that I can't totally disagree with. I think in many classes there are a lot of really good, competitive races when the track permits it. I'm not going to pretend there is a single track in Florida that often preps in such a way every week, but I've seen good races plenty of times at East Bay and at BRP and Volusia. The upper classes (lets say sprints and late models, and maybe even mods) do tend to be a little less competitive on the local level. I think a big part of that is the disparity between the "have lots" and "have less" and the "have nots" of the field. I admit I went to very few races this year, but in previous years if random luck didn't fall into play those classes were typically dominated by a small handful of guys who were just light year faster than everyone else.
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